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  • Unknownstrohsfan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2023
    • 3324

    #16
    Tractors last a long time if you take care of them, there is a reason he is getting rid of that one with like new tires. likeley wasn't what he was looking for either, just on sale. You can do better with a few more hours and the loader. That one is too high. The Hydro transmission is not a must for me I know how to work a stick, and they don't just go out.
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    • WhiteBassFisher
      WhiteBassFisher commented
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      The transmission being hydro or manual is not a huge concern for me. I have owned a few standard transmission cars in the past and would be comfortable enough with that. But apparently the one I showed here is not something I should pursue. For years on here, everyone mentions a FEL being a must have. With so many saying that, I should listen. My back and my legs are all worn out, and maybe the FEL would be good for carrying things around if nothing else. But, the more I think about it the more the FEL makes sense.

    • Unknownstrohsfan
      Unknownstrohsfan commented
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      If you can swing the loader, do it, it is irreplaceable for trash cleanup, minor landscaping, or just picking up heavy crap and moving it from point A to B. A must for moving round bales
  • Landlocked
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 2235

    #17
    I bought a Massey from my sister when she sold her place in West Virginia. It’s an early 90’s vintage.

    The only thing American made on that tractor is the MF sticker on the side. Everything else is made in Japan. It’s been a very good tractor for me. Does everything I want it to do. BUT I'm not brush hogging anything.

    IMHO it just depends on how much you use it and what for.

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    • WhiteBassFisher
      WhiteBassFisher commented
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      Much of what I use it for would be mowing with brush hog. Whether I find one with a brush hog or not, I would have to have one. Like was mentioned above though, adding a FEL is not as simple as buying a brush hog for a tractor due to the hydraulics and controls needed.

      I am not really ready for this purchase yet. I saw that tractor and thought "Maybe", so I started this thread. I have been talked out of that now. There are so many things to spend on when you start out like I am... new to this. I haven't used or driven a tractor in many years. (I spent MANY hours mowing with a tractor when I was a teenager. I worked for the owner of a private airport for 4 years, and there is a lot of mowing to do at an airfield.) I have higher priorities right now than a tractor. I would have to have a proper trailer for hauling a tractor, and a place to store it.

      This will come up again I feel sure, but for now I will cool it. I still welcome any replies along these lines though.
  • On The Hook
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 1714

    #18
    That looks scammy as all get out. Scams are everywhere including the used tractor market. 10 day inspection, warranty, no location listed, sign up and click links, too low of a price= almost guaranteed scam. Google the address. It's a field with no tractor store. People in the usa don't put + in front of the 1 their phone number. Web address created 10/29/25. It's a scam website.

    Last edited by On The Hook; 1 week ago.
    I do stuff !

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    • WhiteBassFisher
      WhiteBassFisher commented
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      Interesting you say that. I have watched and looked on used tractor sites for awhile, and that deal looked too good to be true to me.

    • Shinerlight
      Shinerlight commented
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      Yeah, probably is, i didn't spend much time in my search. I bought a nice used 34hp Kubota with a loader for 9k awhile back, granted its older, but to me that's a good thing, no DEF to deal with.
  • On The Hook
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 1714

    #19
    Originally posted by WhiteBassFisher
    The transmission being hydro or manual is not a huge concern for me. I have owned a few standard transmission cars in the past and would be comfortable enough with that. But apparently the one I showed here is not something I should pursue. For years on here, everyone mentions a FEL being a must have. With so many saying that, I should listen. My back and my legs are all worn out, and maybe the FEL would be good for carrying things around if nothing else. But, the more I think about it the more the FEL makes sense.
    Your back and legs are worn out and your considering a non hydro? Wait till you knee gives out. It's not about knowing how to use a clutch it's about ease of use. Go to a tractor store and demo a few of different brands, even just around their property, find an old manual tractor and drive it, then you will understand. Forks on a tractor transform it's abilities and usefulness. Pay attention to front loader ratings, some are very low. Also does it have a float position? Not all do. kioti makes a pretty decent tractor with fair parts availability, kubota is king, deere is overpriced. Mahindra is ok, but it's made in india (some are china or Japanese) and is on the rough side comparatively. Many brands make some of their tractors and import certain models. Find out who makes what and you will find that there is much overlap between some brands and models.
    Last edited by On The Hook; 1 week ago.
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    • SmithRanchZ
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2023
      • 2308

      #20
      The clutch on some tractors is a wee bit heavier than some 90's era Toyota Camry. Not a silky smooth Porsche 6 speed. More like a 3 speed F-350 from the 70's. If it has a FEL, that's a ton of short moves, back and forth. Forward, reverse, forward, reverse, .... Clutching each time tends to wear you out. Again, don't need hydrostatic, but a power shifter on a geared transmission makes it easy.

      FEL means the machine is not just a mower that can also run an auger, box blade, and disc. It's a fork lift, a red neck man lift, can haul or push materials, and has minor digging abilities. Minor. Think about loading and unloading trucks and trailers, lifting/moving implements, etc.

      The other day I got a bunch of fencing materials. Loaded in my truck on a pallet. T posts, rolls of field fence, some spools of barbed wire. Unloading took minutes. No sweat. Dragging all those items out of the bed individually would be a tough hour plus. Jumping in and out of the bed. That sucks. FEL means I can lift it, and move anywhere - all alone - with only one trip out of the cab to verify the alignment of my forks.

      You don't have a job, and are not mowing for compensation on other people's property. So, I'd suggest you think about all the other tasks on the property, and get a machine that effectively handles as many of those tasks (beyond mowing) as possible.

      Plus, running mowers over about 7 or 8 feet means a much larger machine. Sure, these suburban homestead types on basically "lawns" can run large rotary cutters (finish sorta mowers) on smooth level ground. But, a 7 foot heavy duty mower tends to work my tractor pretty well on typical pasture for my area. Definitely spins up the turbo.

      SGrem does raise one good point. That machine, bare with no implements, is 4k lbs. No rear weights or loaded tires. What is the tow capacity on your truck, and what is the weight of a trailer (dual axle, 3.5k axles) required to move that tractor? Unlike some boat trailers, equipment trailers tend to be steel and have a bunch of wood decking weight. Are you over weight/towing capacity?

      Ranch beef just tastes better.

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      • WhiteBassFisher
        WhiteBassFisher commented
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        Everything you are saying makes sense. I am wanting a 6 foot mower, and think I need a minimum of 30 HP at the PTO for that. Is that correct? Supposedly a minimum of 5HP at PTO per foot width of shredder is a decent rule of thumb. I was hoping for 35 to 40 HP. My mowing would mainly be fields, nothing heavy duty. My next door neighbor here at the lake has 3 lots, 2 or which are really oversize. He has 665 feet of bulkhead! He uses his tractor with FEL a LOT! So, I see the advantage of a FEL, especially at my age. I will not tackle everything at once due to income taxes. I pulled enough from IRA this year to hurt me financially income tax wise and also my Medicare deduction will be higher this coming year due to that. I think it would be trailered so seldom that hauling won't be a a problem. I would prefer to have some sort of barn type storage for equipment and toys such as 4 wheeler and side X side there before I buy a tractor. I still must prioritize the order of my purchases and needs. I probably will rent a tractor a couple of days and mow. That will help me find out hopefully what I really need as to mower width and tractor HP needed. I have always wanted some acreage, but sure waited until late in life for this. My daughter's family is really excited about this though. I would not have bought the place if it wasn't for her family and the recreation they can have there. My plan is to get the place ready for them.
    • texasair
      Member
      • Aug 2023
      • 184

      #21
      For loading dump trucks from a dirt pile or any work where you will be constantly going back and forth over a short distance a hydro-static trans or shuttle shift is nice.
      But for regular work such as discing or mowing a standard transmission is better in my opinion.

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      • SmithRanchZ
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2023
        • 2308

        #22
        Talk to a farm/ranch accountant or tax attorney. Especially if you have never operated a small business.

        Sex -shun won 7 niner.
        Ranch beef just tastes better.

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        • WhiteBassFisher
          WhiteBassFisher commented
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          Section 179 of the tax code allows business taxpayers to deduct the cost of certain property as an expense when the property is first placed in service.
      • On The Hook
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2023
        • 1714

        #23
        Originally posted by h2y
        Have you dealt with/bought from this Elite Equipment? They have a listing for a 2023 Cat 299D Compact Track Loader for $14,500 which would be worth $60K plus. I hit Buy It Now immediately, we'll see what happens. This Kubota tractor seems awfully cheap too.
        It’s a scam. Don’t give them any information. Scammers can be sophisticated and they now create whole websites for fake businesses. They do cars, boats, tractors, trucks, outboards, jet skis, basically anything of decent value. if you gave them any information I including an email, they will use it for future scams or sell it to spammers. A known live email has value to thieves.


        Seriously, run it’s a scam. Google the address and look on a map and find any nearby business and call that real business. They will tell you that the place on the website doesn’t exist. I hope you didn’t give them any information. No one sells clean low hour late model equipment for pennies on the dollar.




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        • Shinerlight
          Shinerlight commented
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          He knows it is, everybody relax..
      • Shinerlight
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2023
        • 1168

        #24
        Here you go, this one is legit. Had the exact tractor, it was a great little tractor. Hopefully you have Facebook.


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      • WhiteBassFisher
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2023
        • 3223

        #25
        Originally posted by SmithRanchZ
        .......
        SGrem does raise one good point. That machine, bare with no implements, is 4k lbs. No rear weights or loaded tires. What is the tow capacity on your truck, and what is the weight of a trailer (dual axle, 3.5k axles) required to move that tractor? Unlike some boat trailers, equipment trailers tend to be steel and have a bunch of wood decking weight. Are you over weight/towing capacity?
        Counselor, do you think I need to look for a Beemer to pull that stout trailer and tractor?

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        • Buckweet
          Buckweet commented
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          what self respected rancher does not pull his tractor with a Beemer?
      • Mont
        Jefe’
        • Aug 2023
        • 854

        #26
        No way on the 2wd. 4wd is hard enough to get unstuck.
        bookmark us at https://dosfrios.com/ttmb

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        • SmithRanchZ
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2023
          • 2308

          #27
          My dual axle (3.5k) utility trailer has a cargo limit of 5200 lbs. The challenge in loading that Massey on my trailer would likely be weight balance.

          Not sure I could avoid excess tongue weight moving it with the mower. Load would likely be too far forward. Backing the Massey and mower onto the trailer might have the same result, assuming I could back it onto the trailer. I'm not sure I could get the mower high enough on the 3 point to back it up the ramps.

          Towing my trailer with a 4 liter V6 4Runner with only a 1 ton load on that trailer was not super enjoyable in any hills.

          Ranch beef just tastes better.

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          • WhiteBassFisher
            WhiteBassFisher commented
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            I have thought too about weight balance, having the majority of the weight just ahead of the axles. Having the proper tongue weight is critical.

          • Unknownstrohsfan
            Unknownstrohsfan commented
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            Rookie.
        • SGrem
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2023
          • 2339

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          • DEXTER
            DEXTER commented
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            I new them pics were coming. Saw the writing on the wall earlier today

          • WhiteBassFisher
            WhiteBassFisher commented
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            Thanks Grem !! lol

          • dwilliams35
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            Amazing to see the pictures that AI can come up with these days.
        • dwilliams35
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2023
          • 4218

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          • dwilliams35
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            • Aug 2023
            • 4218

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