Iran Ceasefire Extended

[wfishtx]

“Based on the fact that the government of Iran is seriously fractured, not unexpectedly so, and, upon the request of Field Marshal Asim Munir and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif of Pakistan, we have been asked to hold our attack on the country of Iran until such time as their leaders and representatives can come up with a unified proposal,” Trump said in a post shared on Truth Social.

So the plan is to sit back and wait for a proposal from Iran and when exactly is "such time"?

Now, Vance is no longer headed to Pakistan as originally planned for round 2 of negotiations and there's no indication of when or if he'll even go at this point.

[Spinky]

Well, after all it is TACO Tuesday..
Some of this shit makes absolutely no sense and changes hour to hour.

[Matt]

Still confused

[2Ws]

Maybe you should offer up some advice to Trump since clearly you know more than those in charge of this operation OR should Trump have done the same as your guy AND just have said don't while mashing his nutz

[Bandit1]

As I've said before, it is very murky who, if anyone, is in charge over there. Confident that it is not Schrodinger's gayatollah however.

[Spinky]

Sometimes I wonder who, if anyone, is in charge over here.

[KWeber]

just getting the Bush in position...

[2Ws]

After all we saw under the last guy why in the hell are wondering now? I wondered who was changing his diaper
NOT to mention the autopen!

[2Ws]

Didn't think you would respond

[On The Hook]

“Based on the fact that the government of Iran is seriously fractured, not unexpectedly so, and, upon the request of Field Marshal Asim Munir and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif of Pakistan, we have been asked to hold our attack on the country of Iran until such time as their leaders and representatives can come up with a unified proposal,” Trump said in a post shared on Truth Social.

So the plan is to sit back and wait for a proposal from Iran and when exactly is "such time"?

Now, Vance is no longer headed to Pakistan as originally planned for round 2 of negotiations and there's no indication of when or if he'll even go at this point.

I told someone last night that exactly this would happen.

[KWeber]

then there's the chance of the irgc eating themselves from within...
they done pushed gayatollah aside...
and we know who's who in the irgc... maybe getting strkes lined up...
plus hammering infrastructure just costs more later to get it all back on-line..
like I said before, you dont have to take out bridges and powerplants to dis-able them...
knock a big hole in a bridge approach and knock down a few transmission towers and both are off-line and easy to fix later

[copanoson]

More strikes does nothing at this point. What does blowing up bridges do to a country and people already in financial ruin? According to our leadership there is nothing left militarily to blowup.

More attacks are only punishing the innocent people of iran and we know iranian government doesn't care if their people suffer. Besides, the more the US blows up, the more US tax $$$ goes to fixing it.

Its time to make a deal and move on before a prolonged closed straight causes long term global damage economically. Oil prices now are nothing compared to what they will be.

We've used enough resources on this 4 week project.

[tec]

Trump has more info than we do and I trust him to do what's best for us.

[bucko]

What is left of Irans leadership is fractured and going broke. Let them squabble while they run out of any way to store their oil, their main source of income. Which then incurs even larger and more costly problems. (Iran’s oil fields are falling in useable value, while America’s are going up in value). The blockade is doing more than any missile attacks would. It’s going to be hard for Iran to build more drones or pay their military or rebuild, when they don’t have any income and their currency is falling in value.

I think Trump is playing this very well, all while telling the world publicly what is happening in real time. Including telling the Iranian people their new leader is gay

[bucko]

There are several ways to control a county. Yes, debt is a great way, but the US is in debt to China and they arent exactly controlling us right now. Killing a countries leadership, then blockading any imports/exports is another way - we will see how effective it is in the next few weeks.

Some of yall want to act like it hasnt been Iran's plan to block the strait in the event of hostilities for decades. And that Trump didnt see it coming. I disagree. I dont think Iran saw Trump reblocking the strait and letting them drown in their own yuen backed oil.

[copanoson]

Except iran oil tankers are sailing past the blockade.

https://www.ft.com/content/21dff2c7-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

[2Ws]

Behind a paywall....jeez such BS
And you have the audacity to post this crap while trashing others links.
Bless your heart

[WhiteBassFisher]

There are some logical thoughts here. In reality, the above is very likely. I have 2 concerns mainly, the second of which needs to happen sooner than later.
1. Be absolutely certain when this carp is over that Iran can't get back into any nuclear possibilities in a short term if ever.
2. Open the Strait!

Beyond that, the fewer innocent average citizens hurt the better. I honestly believe that Trump doesn't want to hurt others needlessly. I want Iran to know we mean business, but if Trump wants to negotiate more, that is fine. He needs to be able to sleep at night.

[wfishtx]

Agree 100% WBF. When this ends it needs to be over for good. Zero nuclear capabilities for Iran and a free flowing Strait for goods. I'm actually glad to see Trump pull the plug on more bombings. Blowing Iran up doesn't do anything but cost the American taxpayer ungodly amounts of money. Trump made his point loud and clear to Iran, now its time to finish this at the negotiating table.

[copanoson]

Now we can expect a rise in the US birth rate because of the war....

World’s biggest condom maker warns of price rises because of Iran war

[copanoson]

Goodness boom...do you need a hug? No idea I impacted your life so much and created so much emotion.

[Landlocked]

It’s more fun to bump hips without one of those anyway.

[KWeber]

Iran-backed forces are blocking the Middle East's future, author says | Fox News
worth the 2-3min read...
it's no secret that most ME countries want the loons in Iran dead and gone

[2Ws]

Yep and some here want it to stay as is.

[Bandit1]

And yet none of them are willing to do anything about it themselves. If ground forces need to be involved, it needs to be theirs and not ours. Let the saudis take over.

[KWeber]

and that's the rub...the Arab countries have long expected the US to do their dirty work.
.it's all a smoke screen from them about not going against their moslem brothers..
although in private they acknowledge the shiites are a problem

[DEXTER]

Iran-backed forces are blocking the Middle East's future, author says | Fox News
worth the 2-3min read...
it's no secret that most ME countries want the loons in Iran dead and gone

We both know of one in particular that doesn't think that way and it surprises me (hint he owns a "accurate reloading" message board)

[KWeber]

yeah, that place is full of cra-cra...lol
I look there once in a while for entertainment

[Matt]

Well, after all it is TACO Tuesday..
Some of this shit makes absolutely no sense and changes hour to hour.

Everyone sync'd their Trump watches. That could be part of the problem

[wfishtx]

We now have Trump claiming the blockade "scares more than bombing". You mean Trump didn't know that before we dropped hundreds of millions worth of bombs on Iran?

Again, this Iran conflict has not been one of Trump's brightest moments in my opinion. And no, that doesn't make me a liberal and no I don't wish Kamala was President.

[2Ws]

Iran loosing 500,000,000 a DAY is a good thing.... RIGHT?

[wfishtx]

Two things 2Ws.....

1. You and a few others get accused of swinging from Trump's nut sack not because you disagree with anyone here or with Trump; you get accused of that because you blindly AGREE with EVERYTHING Trump says and/or does. Even when its ridiculous. Its like you're scared that your MAGA compadres will disown you or something if you even remotely kind of sort think you might disagree with Trump. I'll start a new thread and get your opinion on Trump bailing out Spirit Airlines.

Secondly, Iran losing 500,000,000 a day is absolutely a good thing! Now we just have to figure out how to keep the likes of Putin and China from replenishing their funds. We're probably on the same side more than you think 2Ws.

[Boom!]

Such a victim.

[2Ws]

YOU say I agree with everything??? Really? You're so full of shit I can smell you over here. You've been at this since Trump said he might run again.... prove me wrong

[TRF]

Yep - somebody needs to break out the violin for him already and maybe some cheese to go with the whiney.

[wfishtx]

Enlighten us 2Ws....name 1 thing Trump has done or said that you haven't agree with?

[wfishtx]

2Ws - you are literally the easiest guy in the world to troll. Take a deep breath and lighten up Francis.....LOL