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  • Bocephus
    Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 1079

    Canyon Lake

    Extreme drought has gripped the Texas Hill Country for years, taking a severe toll on lake levels at Canyon Lake. Levels there are now under 60 percent full....
    I miss the America I grew up in.
  • Hooked
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2023
    • 637

    #2
    Sad deal for all the hill country lakes. Loved Canyon Lake and the surrounding area. We camped there frequently in the 70's.

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    • Juan
      Member
      • Aug 2023
      • 123

      #3
      Will take a Tropical Storm to refill the lakes hopefully this year

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      • LouReed
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2023
        • 1443

        #4
        Kept thinking they'd show my buddy's old place. He sold it about 10 years ago & put the money into another property when his son and some friends stopped going up there. I was sad to see it go. Loved his little corner of that lake. It was way back up in the back of a cove where Tom Creek emptied into the lake. No traffic other than anglers using trolling motors.

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        • Trouthunter
          Administrator
          • Aug 2023
          • 1165

          #5
          Our family place in Utopia is on the Sabinal River and the Sabinal has been pretty much dry or stagnant for years now.
          Life its too short to own ugly handguns and drink fruity whiskey.

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          • Boom!
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2023
            • 1170

            #6
            With all of the growth in San Antonio and Austin our aquifers are taking a beating. It’s going to get worse.

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            • Trouthunter
              Administrator
              • Aug 2023
              • 1165

              #7
              Originally posted by Boom!
              With all of the growth in San Antonio and Austin our aquifers are taking a beating. It’s going to get worse.
              Exactly right and we've been saying that for years. A friend who lives in north SA said that when they do the water restrictions it doesn't apply to the country clubs lol.
              Life its too short to own ugly handguns and drink fruity whiskey.

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              • SmithRanchZ
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2023
                • 1029

                #8
                Originally posted by Boom!
                With all of the growth in San Antonio and Austin our aquifers are taking a beating. It’s going to get worse.
                Bingo. If anything, an under statement. Water is going to be a huge challenge unless the population growth and industry in the Hill Country drops to nothing.

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                • Boom!
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2023
                  • 1170

                  #9
                  I’m not sure why we don’t pipe water from the coastal cities to the hill country. What we are dumping into the trinity right now would go a long way in the hill country.

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                  • TRF
                    Member
                    • Aug 2023
                    • 120

                    #10
                    Yet our government leaders continue to allow more and more people into the country that creates even a bigger demand on all of our resources.

                    Matagorda county plans to allow many more Plants to be built in the county which creates an even larger demand on our water tables.

                    More people = more pollution = bigger demand on resources. They are really concerned and doing one hell of a job taking care of our environment!

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                    • WhiteBassFisher
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2023
                      • 1484

                      #11
                      Some natural resources can't handle our present populations, and certainly not the populations that are coming. You could say that humans have f'-d themselves to death.

                      Late note: As TRF said above, allowing all the people from other countries to enter the US, especially the high numbers of illegals, just puts more strain on our country. It is not uncommon for a married couple to plan their family size so that they can afford to live and be able to house, educate and feed their family. Leaders of the world don't seem concerned at all about this.
                      Last edited by WhiteBassFisher; 05-09-2024, 10:02 AM.

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                      • catndahats
                        Member
                        • Aug 2023
                        • 77

                        #12
                        Yeah, we are living it at Canyon Lake. I did not watch this video but have seen and read many articles. The lake is down like 20' and lower than it has been since it was first filled mid 1960's. Rain has eluded our area and more importantly the upstream area around Kerrville that feeds Canyon Lake. Nature can take care of that and has repeatedly with tropical moisture/storms.

                        The bigger problem is population growth.

                        People consistently protest at the county commisioners planning meetings, but the shiny dollars waved in commisioners faces by developers consistently wins out. County blames the state, state blames the county...and developers keep building 5 houses on one acre with no room for septic, no wells allowed, and a very weak, old water system that cannot provide resources effectively to the existing properties.

                        Even in the few years we have lived here there has been a population/building explosion. Ranches being sold off and replaced with concrete, tract homes and apartments so close together you can't even sneeze without a neighbor hearing it. The counties are pretty wreckless in how easily they are allowing the expansion----meaning they grant permits knowing completely that the aquifer, lakes, and rivers cannot sustain the pressure long term.

                        Calling the situation of overbuilding without having water and sewer resources available, and extended drought conditions a hot mess is an understatement. It is a serious hill country problem.

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                        • KWeber
                          KWeber commented
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                          south edge of the hill country, too...SA is expanding fast to the west....

                        • catndahats
                          catndahats commented
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                          KWeber, yes it is a region-wide problem. My family has been coming up here since the 1960's but the growth has exploded in the last 5 years to a crazy unmanageable level. We moved from a lifetime of living in Seabrook (which was a sleepy little fishing town as I grew up) to escape it. The Houston growth just gobbled our town(s) up. Seguin is now a suburb of New Braunfels and New Braunfels is a suburb of San Antonio. Feels like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.They paved paradise and put up a parking lot

                        • Trouthunter
                          Trouthunter commented
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                          Heck San Antonio is pretty much already in Castroville.
                      • SmithRanchZ
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2023
                        • 1029

                        #13
                        Part of the challenge is price. Water is kinda sorta a "public" service, and the price kept artificially low. Add in the rule of capture. So, you end up with a shortage of "cheap" water.

                        Raise the price of water, and it's profitable with desalination (especially of lower salt content brine) or to transport from a long distance.

                        Meanwhile, consider - 30 million people in Texas. Save even 1/3rd of a gallon per day per person. 10 million gallons a day, 365 million a year. Save a gallon per person per day, billion gallons a year. Gallon a day per person could be saved just by flushing urine once a day, as opposed to each time.

                        That's a quick billion gallons that don't have to be captured, piped to the house, and treated before release.

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                        • 98aggie77566
                          Member
                          • Aug 2023
                          • 353

                          #14
                          Yea.....that sounds like a lot of water and all.....but one acre inch of rain is 27K gallons.

                          One inch of rain across our 25 acres is almost 700K gallons.

                          Yes we should save water....but you simply can't compete with what the good Lord provides from above.

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                          • dwilliams35
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2023
                            • 2478

                            #15
                            Originally posted by 98aggie77566
                            Yea.....that sounds like a lot of water and all.....but one acre inch of rain is 27K gallons.

                            One inch of rain across our 25 acres is almost 700K gallons.

                            Yes we should save water....but you simply can't compete with what the good Lord provides from above.
                            I think the problem is just that the hill country simply doesn't get enough rain, and/or can't store enough of it, to handle the new load. Never really has, and probably never will be able to supply this much water. Welcome to California.

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                            • KWeber
                              KWeber commented
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                              just came out in our little paper...hondo airport NWS station...
                              total for the YEAR... 3.55in
                          Working...