The War against small farmers and rancher is real

[SmithRanchZ]

In Texas, the use of a sonogram on an animal to diagnose any condition or for any therapeutic purposes is the practice of vet medicine. Thus, it must be done by a licensed vet or under the supervision of a licensed vet.

Early America had craft guilds and a master, journeymen, apprentice system for some trades and crafts. In some situations, only masters could operate independently, and people outside the guild could be prohibited from practicing the trade. We see the modern echo of this in the licensing system for some trades. Master plumber, etc.

[Stalkin Spots]

It's definitely a gray area, one way or another. I'm not arguing that it's right or wrong here, but the charge WASN'T for giving a cow a sonogram, as was mentioned here and in the title of the video, for that matter.. It was for violating state laws regarding licensure of somebody providing specialized veterinary care for pay. You can complain about those laws all you want, but the fact is that they crossed whatever line there was that got them sideways with the state. Yes, it happens a lot. If you don't like the laws, work to change them. Meanwhile, the real issue here, if it's not just all propaganda BS spread by their lawyer, is a due process issue, not a veterinary one.

It’s not an issue unless he presented himself as being a vet. Otherwise, he is a neighbor with a sonogram machine that was willing to help out for a fee. It’s all in how you package it. No different than not being able to legally sell a deer to kill, but you can sell access to kill a deer on your property. Deer belong to the State, not the landowner.

[dwilliams35]

Too bad the entirety of the governmental, legal, and regulatory world disagrees with you.

[gds]

If you really want to get your panties in a wad over farmers being mistreated, you need to read what is going on in Oregon. They are saying that if you have an area, no matter how small, paved or covered with stone so that water cannot permeate the soil you are contributing to spoiling the water. You can either put in a proper drainage system or quit raising chickens, pigs or milking cows, the state approved drainage systems will cost in the thousands of dollars. It doesn't matter if you only have half a dozen chickens, if they are penned up you are in violation. It turns out that this law has been traced back to the dairy association trying to stop the small operations.

[Duckchasr]

If you really want to get your panties in a wad over farmers being mistreated, you need to read what is going on in Oregon. They are saying that if you have an area, no matter how small, paved or covered with stone so that water cannot permeate the soil you are contributing to spoiling the water. You can either put in a proper drainage system or quit raising chickens, pigs or milking cows, the state approved drainage systems will cost in the thousands of dollars. It doesn't matter if you only have half a dozen chickens, if they are penned up you are in violation. It turns out that this law has been traced back to the dairy association trying to stop the small operations.

That's why early in the Amos Miller case I suggested he assemble a 300 man militia and I guarantee the government goons would not have come in a swat type raid. It would have put the ball back in government court. The would have to ask themselves is keeping people from drinking raw milk and eating raw milk cheese worth my life? If we don't demand the freedoms our Constitution guarantees us and to stand against a skewed pay to play industrialized food system ruled by tyrants, we will eventually eat bugs and be happy. What did our founders do they pledged their very lives for freedom.

ps. Now if the genocidal manics decide to Waco the place. At least now the public know the government will literally kill you to keep you safe from yourself.

[SmithRanchZ]

Food safety laws in England date back to the 13th Century. In the Colonies, back to the mid 1600's. After independence, Mass passed a food safety law in 1785. So, yeah, some of the very 1st laws passed after the Revolutionary War.

[SeaOx 230c]

Show us where they passed a law from those days saying you have to be approved and/or licensed by a government agency employee to sell your goods and services. Show us a law from those days allowing government thugs to raid your home, farm, business because you didn't comply with said government agency

[dwilliams35]

How do you do a food safety law without governmental intrusion of some type?

[Duckchasr]

Even older the Bible has a few.

[Duckchasr]

dwilliams35 commented
05-10-2024, 10:56 AM


How do you do a food safety law without governmental intrusion of some type?

Well Amos Miller's farm is a private co-op membership that requires you to sign a waiver that you understand you are RISKING your life for seeking out non- government adulterated products. lol
We need to demand personal responsibility be put back into law.

Just a quick google search shows the utter corruption throughout the industrialized food system and you can see the usda certainly doesn't keep us safe. Big Ag doesn't care. Small farmers care. That's the difference.

[dwilliams35]

dwilliams35 commented
05-10-2024, 10:56 AM


How do you do a food safety law without governmental intrusion of some type?

Well Amos Miller's farm is a private co-op membership that requires you to sign a waiver that you understand you are RISKING your life for seeking out non- government adulterated products. lol
We need to demand personal responsibility be put back into law.

Just a quick google search shows the utter corruption throughout the industrialized food system and you can see the usda certainly doesn't keep us safe. Big Ag doesn't care. Small farmers care. That's the difference.

At some point the basic concept that you can't contract away tort liability has got to enter into the equation.. Miller's apparently got a history of selling tainted milk, e-coli and the like, apparently, at some point you're going to establish a pattern that he really doesn't care much either. At the very least he's proven that he cares a lot more about just being a victimized "conservative hero" than he does about selling untainted product.. Even with a waiver you have to do basic due diligence to make sure you've got a salable product there. Fine with me if he wants to sell the milk, but at some point personal responsibility is on both sides of the cow there...

[dwilliams35]

I'm sorry, but that ain't saying just a whole lot. Bluebell actually killed somebody, this guy just got them deathly ill...

[Duckchasr]

Nope Doc they HAVE ZERO evidence of any sickness tied to The Miller farm. You should read about the case against his farm it's horrendous, in fact there will be counter suits filed.

[Unknownstrohsfan]

Well I'm pretty sure Bluebell has all the Govt. certs that are needed to remain in business so by your argument, you're not saying a whole lot. Also i don't remember anyone dying from bad ice cream, just that lysteria was detetcted in the mixer or something, and they had to revamp their cleaning process.

[SmithRanchZ]

We are killing people every day in the War on Drugs. Anyone that doesn't appreciate that their local, state, and Fed government will kill them to save them and others from bad decisions must be living under a rock or something.

[Duckchasr]

The reason they are targeting these guys is part of their battle plan. The are about to ramp up the "FEAR" that will lead to the exterminating of our dairy cattle. The small natural and organic farms that have flawless records concerning animal and food borne illnesses will be the target of their wrath. The pay to play corporate food industry will still be mass producing a milk like product from cows that are literally feed chicken s#@t.

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Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
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[Duckchasr]

Not sure how the big flags got copied in. sorry

[gds]

I am not really up to speed on the Miller case, but if he has people sign a disclaimer, then they are taking responsibility for their health. This is no different than people buying cigerettes or drinking alcohol, we all know that it is bad for you, but it's your choice. In the case of buying Miller's milk there is a possibility, but not a guarantee like with cigerettes and alcohol.

[Wbay2crowded]

We have a neighborhood lady that makes a little spending money giving haircuts in the comfort of your home. She also does the sick, elderly, & indigent for free….and she has no current cosmetology license.

That bitch needs to go to jail.

[Duckchasr]

Post her location so the Hair cut police can flash bang her and kick her door down and shoot her down if she resist. I mean come on. How could we allow such a dangerous person to continue putting people in harms way with these unlicensed hair cut jobs. If she's a white Christian even the better.