Canyon Lake

[catndahats]

Bingo.
Anywhere but California, please.

I think the problem is just that the hill country simply doesn't get enough rain, and/or can't store enough of it, to handle the new load. Never really has, and probably never will be able to supply this much water. Welcome to California.

[82dodge]

Medina Lake is 95' low!

[KWeber]

91.6 accd to my local paper...
but, yeah, its just a puddle

[Shinerlight]

Yes, it's going to take a major rain event (12-15in) to fill it back up, but the problem is it'll be low in no time just because of the population explosion in that area.

[Landlocked]

How quickly does the Edwards Aquifer recharge? I remember reading somewhere that it recharges pretty fast if rain hits the right spot somewhere west of Austin San Antonio.

Way different from the Ogallala aquifer. Takes 100’s of years there.

But yea, water will only become a greater issue.

[Shinerlight]

Minus the houses floating down the Blanco River, that was a wild night up there.

[KWeber]

there are a couple recharge dams in north medina co...
the valdina batcave can dump in a huge amt...

[Wado II]

They could have used that 6 inch dump Sunday just a few miles from me. Keystone Ranch area just east of Pearsall got hammered we recorded .9 of an inch and watched that cloud drift east towards Tilden. We're doing way better this year for rainfall, 11.5" so far but it's still dry a shovel depth down. If it would have been wet enough to pull a subsoiler or a big chisel prior to our last two rains we could have had better moisture for later that one rain we had came in about ten minutes and ran into the creeks didn't have time to soak in the ground is so packed.

[Danny Jansen]

It's just not up there. Falcon lake is at 9.8 percent capacity. That's where everything and everybody in the RGV gets it's water and Amistad is in the low 20 percent. Mexico owes us a whole bunch of water and won't pay

[Wado II]

Texas only sugar mill is closing due to Mexico shorting their water supply. https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2024...ater-shortage/

[beerdruid]

Sad to see. I have fond memories of Canyon Lake as a kid from summer vacations.

[Texashookset 2]

I lived lakefront on Canyon for a few years in the early 2000’s, saw the 02’ flood when the CoE held it back. Seems like a lifetime ago but it will fill up again like the Memorial Day flood of 16’ (or 15’?). Seems to be about every 10 years or so they’re due.

Reason I moved to POC last year was to get away from that what has become a concrete jungle the last 5-10 years of 281/46 area north of SA . That area does NOT have the capability to provide anymore water naturally like Houston does even if it received the rains Houston does. There is not a major river within 150 miles of anywhere close to there.

[Unknownstrohsfan]

I’m not sure why we don’t pipe water from the coastal cities to the hill country. What we are dumping into the trinity right now would go a long way in the hill country.

Amen brother! Lets start laying a 60" pipeline to the Colorado south of Brownwood, crossing the Brazos and the Guadalupe. We already have it piped in as far as lake Houston. Anytime the outflow at the Livingston dam gets above 20k CFM start the pump and dead head it to whatever watershed needs it most.

[Unknownstrohsfan]

Belton lake went from 6' below pool to 9' above pool in 1 day.

[dwilliams35]

Amen brother! Let’s start laying a 60" pipeline to the Colorado south of Brownwood, crossing the Brazos and the Guadalupe. We already have it piped in as far as lake Houston. Anytime the outflow at the Livingston dam gets above 20k CFM start the pump and dead head it to whatever watershed needs it most.

So what kind of pump do you have that’ll pump a 60’ diameter column with 1100’ of natural head that far? So that some dude in Austin can dump it on his yard? I’ve heard that floated a lot of times, but the physics there are astounding. if it’s even close to anything that would make the slightest dent.

”but we did the alaskan pipeline”…Okay, if water is 80 bucks a barrel, we’ll talk.

Probably be easier to just permanently ban lawn sprinklers and high-use appliances over about 20 counties.

[SeaOx 230c]

I’m not sure why we don’t pipe water from the coastal cities to the hill country. What we are dumping into the trinity right now would go a long way in the hill country.

Because in Texas water rights try to protect both present and future needs of a watershed. It dictates that the water in a particular watershed belongs to the People in that water shed. It's done so that larger more powerful water hungry regions or entitities can't just reroute the water from us on the Trinity for example.

At some point in the future a City, Town,Region will grow and more and more of the water in their watershed.

So not that it can't be done..... Just that it's not easy or straight forward.. There's so many catches to it it most often becomes not do able.

A canal was recently dug to divert water from the Trinity watershed the into the Lake Houston, San Jacinto River. There's a ton of rules around it. Houston doesn't just get water whenever and however much they want.

What also made it feasible is this.... The Trinity and San Jacinto River watersheds divie right there where the canal goes thru. That is literally the ridge that has water fowing to the Trinity down one side and to the San Jac down the other. Made it pretty easy to channel the water.

[Mrsh978]

San Antonio is already “ pipeing” water from above Waco. A 30” duct was drilled to escort it to SA. The growth versus actual rain ( water supply ) is upside down. Last year - 20” less rain fall, year before the same. We are in a drought cycle ( not Fing global warming crap) . Corpus pipes water from Edna . … Texas is growing with urban sprawl and is at a pivot point of realistic balance. I have had 7 neighbors well around me go dry in the last two years. SAWS ( sa water crooks ) has a water tower / well near me that’s 550gpm. It’s supplying water to all the California relocates who irrigate the yard year round ….

[KWeber]

yep.. read in an ag newsletter awhile back about the sugar mill closing acct not enough cane fields (acct no water) and like Danny said, Falcon is about 10% and Amistad
is dropping fast, too..last I heard, RGV pop. is above 4mil...
here's anoth tidbit....when canyon lake was being built , Sa was offered some of the water to be impounded...
the then mayor of SA, walter mcallister sed hell no... we got all we need right under us (edwards aquifer)... little did he know....

[SmithRanchZ]

Rule of capture. Absent local or county based restrictions, I can pump all the water I want from my own land. And use it for whatever purpose I desire. It belongs to the public until I capture it. But, once I capture it, I can waste it however I want.

Different deal for some surface water, but for under ground water, the default is the rule of capture a/k/a he who has the biggest pump gets most of the water.

One alternative is the system used in many western states. The water is allocated based upon prior use/water rights. The end result of that in times of shortage is stuff like - no well permit unless you own at least XX acres, the well water can only be used for domestic purposes, and you are prohibited from using it for irrigation or from using rain harvesting of a certain scale.

[Trouthunter]

Places that make a living off of renting cabins for people who go to Leakey to float the Frio are slowly going out of business. Lots of places for sale. It's really sad.

[KWeber]

CC has alot of rights to the Nueces watershead.. (which includes every trickle from W of Castroville to W of Uvalde)
the Nueces, the Frio, the Sabinal, the Seco, and the Hondo

[Trouthunter]

Kurt CC also gets all of Lake Texana's water too.